So with the disappointing part of the convention out of the way, how was the rest of it? Regular readers might be nodding their heads at this but I want to say it in the hope that it inspires someone out there. If you can attend a convention, especially a bigger one, do it. You will almost certainly get motivation from attending. Whether you play games, look for a new game to collect and play, view miniatures that are entered in a painting competition, or just browse the various vendors at a show, it will make you want to do some hobbying. The only reason I can think of not to attend is if you’re on a strict budget, you might find staying disciplined and not spending money there to be a challenge. Its not impossible, of course, but as I learned, its not hard to splash the cash at a convention either!
I’m privileged to live close to Adepticon and so really, there’s no reason not to pay it a visit, especially when it comes to shopping opportunities. The amount of vendors there is really large. Both times I’ve gone, I feel overwhelmed at how many booths there are and I’m pretty sure that I always miss ones that I would otherwise enjoy visiting. What I should do is go through each lane carefully to make sure I see everything but instead, the sights and sounds overwhelm me and I throw caution to the wind moving from booth-to-booth. While I didn’t take any pictures, it isn’t hard to find footage of Adepticon on Youtube so give a look there if you want to see the enormity of it all.
With that out of the way, here are my random thoughts on each booth and any purchases I made at each one.
Mantic – While I visited Mantic’s booth primarily to enter in Brush with Death, there was one thing I wanted to pick up. Mantic surprisingly released a Comic Book version of Lobster Johnson that is only for sale on their website and at conventions. Since shipping from the UK is high, picking one up at Adepticon made the purchase a no-brainer. While I can barely remember a Comic Book version of Lobster Johnson, I was excited to get this because it comes with basically the same cards as regular Lobster Johnson. As you might recall, I am missing that card and Mantic didn’t have any left so I basically solved that problem without having to do any extra work like having a custom card printed.
What did surprise me is that Mantic had tons of Terrain Crate stuff and what seemed to be starter boxes for their other games and that was it. I wasn’t looking for any of their miniatures besides Lobster Johnson but I was surprised to not to see more of the extensive Kings of War range there. I guess they know what they’re doing and targeted people new to their system.
Modiphius – Stopping by Modiphius’s both was an obvious choice since Fallout Wasteland Warfare is my primary game. I didn’t have any big plans to get anything for Fallout but at the same time, if I saw anything that was hard to get, I figured I might as well pick it up. They had a few of the terrain kits so I got a pack of computer terminals which is something that will be really handy for gaming purposes and you can only get them by ordering from Modiphius directly. I also picked up Nuka Girl because I see people paint her somewhat poorly and I wanted to give her a try. She’s also hard to get online so I figured why not. I also got a free Khan Star Trek mini so if anybody US based would like it, please let me know. I have no idea what I will do with it otherwise as I’m not much of a Star Trek fan and have only seen the newer trilogy of movies.
I thought of all the major manufacturers, Modiphius’s booth was missing something. They had a great supply of product but their just wasn’t a lot of enthusiasm there when I visited surprisingly. They had a display case with miniatures (some painted better than others) and trophies which I believe were used in a Fallout tournament but they could have done more than stock lots of minis for sale and have some small demo tables available.
Scale 75 – The last time I went to Adepticon, I was tempted by Scale 75’s larger scale miniatures. That was a few years ago and now Scale 75 distributes other miniatures including Kimera Models. I’ve ogled Kimera’s “miniatures” for a long time as they’re some of the best out there beyond Games Workshop. And wouldn’t you know it, they had one I’ve really wanted and it was for a great price. I bought Anubis because he’s awesome looking and unlike humans, elves, and dwarves, I’m confident that I can get by with painting simpler eyes. Getting that part right is what intimidates me in larger scales because I’ve seen how much more detailed that process is. If you mess it up, it kind of messes up the entire thing as well. I’ve opened Anubis and it looks really high quality and easy to put together. I feel confident that I can paint this and paint it well when I get around to it so we’ll see how I get on with it in the future.
AK Interactive – Their booth was pretty bare bones and mostly had paint and their new vegetation products. I was tempted to get a box of their new paints but elected not to for now. I would say that if you want to get AK Interactive or Scale 75 paints in the United States for a good price, go to a convention. The prices are much more favorable and you don’t have to deal with shipping either.
Black Site Studio – This was one of the other booths I was excited to visit because I would have loved to get some more Fallout terrain so I can keep making progress on that this year. Unfortunately, their booth was very focused on their own miniature games and the terrain in stock was geared towards that too. They had one kit (one!) that fit Fallout in the entire booth and it isn’t one that I was looking for right now so this one was disappointing for me. I’d like to see Black Site have more terrain from across their line instead of being so focused on their miniature games but I understand why they did that at the same time.
Games Workshop – This is going to sound crazy but the first time I attended Adepticon, I thought Games Workshop’s booth was kind of underwhelming. It wasn’t as big as I thought it would be and it is kind of hard to find on the convention floor. I don’t know why they put it in the back corner and not towards the front but that is the way it was. Either way, I did manage to track it down on Sunday and was impressed by how much Forge World stuff they had, especially for Necromunda. They did have some FW minis for Middle Earth though I would say most of it was undesirable/less popular. Overall, there was unsurprisingly way less Middle Earth compared to anything Warhammer. Sales were brisk and even though I was there an hour or two before the vendor hall closed, they were well-stocked compared to other vendors. I didn’t end up getting anything since nothing grabbed me. I’m glad I didn’t because I hadn’t retrieved my miniatures from Golden Demon yet and my plans have changed since all of that anyway.
So that was a bit about my shopping experience. There were several booths I missed that would have been well worth a visit but I spent $100+ in record time on Friday. For example, I very nearly bought some metal miniatures from Crocodile Games because I love their Ancient Fantasy setting. It is neat being able go from one manufacturer to another and honestly, being able to score deals from the elusive European companies like Scale 75 and AK Interactive alone makes it worth visiting a convention here in the States.
I hope this was interesting and I tried to share info that I think others might find interesting. I could have easily spent much more time and money in the vendor hall, especially on Friday when everyone was well-stocked. This wraps up my thoughts on the convention. I will get back to regular hobby progress soon. I will also discuss my new hobby plans in the wake of Golden Demon in the near future as well.
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I’ve never been to a gaming convention, but have been to Emerald City Comicon several times. When you factor in the ticket price, gas, food, maybe lodging…it can be quite expensive. Still, it’s a fun experience, especially when you score some stuff that is hard to find online or even get some swag. Do they run games at the Con too? That and painting workshops would probably be my primary interest. Though if I could pick up a Blood Bowl FW mini at a decent price (and better yet, see the actual mini before I buy!), that might entice me. I mentioned ReaperCon earlier, but Adepticon might be in the cards too since our Son is attending college in Indiana. Although it looks like it falls a week before our Spring break, which would make it tricky. Who knows!
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Going to a Comic-con is a pretty comparable experience to the cost of going to Adepticon. The main difference is that if you don’t want to enter in a painting competition, do gaming stuff, and enroll in classes, its free to go in and walk around and shop. Obviously that isn’t something you’d do if you’re going to travel hundreds of miles to attend but it is nice that they do that.
They certainly do run games! There are big tournaments for the games you would expect. I don’t know if it is the biggest in the US or second largest but Middle Earth SBG has a big tournament there for example. I know that some people and gaming clubs host less played games too though I’ve never looked into that. If you poke around on Adepticon’s website, you should be able to find more information on what gaming is available.
I didn’t look to see if FW had Blood Bowl there but I’d almost bet they have some. I think in the past, you can order ahead of time from FW and pick it up without having to pay shipping there too for what that’s worth.
If you’re in Indiana already, it would be rude not to come up and see Adepticon 😉 The downside is that the weather is never great in Chicago at this time of year. Its usually somewhere between 30-40 degrees, overcast, and a wind chill here. I assume they know that and think people will be that much more likely to want to be inside at a convention but I don’t know.
While this video talks about Golden Demon, there are several sections that show what Adepticon is like including one of the gaming areas, the vendor hall, and GD case so it might be worth a look: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rX_qWhzeNo.
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Cheers, I’ll check out that video to get a better idea. That weather is ok with me, though it’s been a long time since I lived in Alaska, I got pretty used to it being 10 below. Though your guys wind chill is nothing to sneeze at!! That’s pretty awesome that they will let you in to shop without paying a ticket price. Afaik that hasn’t been an option at any of the comic conventions I went to.
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Yeah, Comic conventions are expensive. You’ve got a price to get in, all autographs cost $$$, and there’s tons of stuff to buy. They’re fun but not cheap!
If you can handle Alaska, you can handle here! March isn’t usually as cold as the winter tends to be and it generally isn’t snowy either. I only mention the weather because going sightseeing at popular outside places like Millennium Park isn’t quite as much fun until it really warms up. There’s a reason why all the tourists come here in the summer, I reckon! 🙂
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Yea, I tend to skip the autographs. Unless I just want to say Hi to an artist. I found an autographed copy of a comic doesn’t mean anything on eBay, so there isn’t much point to me at least.
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I couldn’t agree more. That is the main reason to do it in my opinion too. Pay your money and hopefully have a nice and memorable interaction with someone whose talents you admire.
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It’s really nice when they happen to have a new book on their table that I didn’t already have. That’s when I would certainly ask for an autograph. But yea, for whatever reason (maybe lack of legitimacy?) autographed graphic novels/comics seem to have no extra value on eBay. I would think something signed by a writer/artist that has passed away or a recluse like Alan Moore would warrant some value, but not as far as I’ve seen.
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I would have thought the same for Alan Moore but I guess there just isn’t a market there (yet!). I did the same thing you described at the comic convention I went to in Cincinnati. I bought a book from David Mack that I was already interested in owning and he signed it and chatted with me. It was ten years ago when I was drawing and he encouraged me to keep drawing which was really nice of him. I think I was lucky and some creators would say a lot less or be less kind than he was.
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I think the market for it has sailed, though things sometimes boomerang. Maybe in the higher end collectors market they sell, when accompanied by some piece of authentication. But yea, I’m more about talking to the creators anyways. I’ve met some that were super nice and some that were jerks. I guess that’s pretty normal, since they were all humans! 😉
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Sounds like a fun experience, we don’t really have anything like this over here (at least not so miniatures focused!) but there’s something to be said for being able to go stall to stall. Looks like you made some nice purchases without going too overboard, seems like a win win!
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Thanks, Nic! It certainly is fun and there are few stores in the US that can come anywhere near the selection and variety of products at Adepticon so that alone makes it worth a visit. I hope that Oz gets something similar one of these days. You guys deserve it!
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Like Faust above, I’ve gone to the Emerald City Comicon several times when I lived in Maryland and I was a big fan of Frank Cho. Unfortunately, I wasn’t into the wargaming/painting hobby as much then and didn’t go to the wargaming cons like Historicon that were relatively close.
The best I can do now is Train shows to pick terrain making material.
I’m not surprised that Mantic didn’t have much of their Kings of War, I think at this point people have what they need for that game. My local game store has their Kings of War on the discount table now, making way for the next best thing.
Sounds like GW treated LOTR like their stores do, space needed for their more popular games. I would think that since there was LOTR games being played at the convention, they would have had more.
Nice haul on what you bought, you were better at being restrained than what I would have been, the paints would have been very tempting to me.
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I didn’t realize you lived in Maryland. That seems like it would be a good place to live. Frank Cho is a great artist as well! Are there really no wargaming conventions in Seattle or Portland? With the amount of people that live in those two cities now, there really should be one! It probably wouldn’t be as big as Nova or Adepticon but it would certainly be respectable.
That is interesting about Mantic. I don’t go to a gaming store regularly since I moved away from one of the few good ones here in the city but it makes sense. Mantic has a strange business. I think they’re actually like a smaller version of GW in that they want to hook you on their system and products so that they become your one source for everything. The problem is that their product quality is noticeably inferior to GW, especially with miniatures…
All I can say is that GW had more at Adepticon than any of their stores do, which is ridiculous, I think. The SBG tournaments at Adepticon are the biggest or second biggest in the US so it is one of the few places where I feel LOTR really shines. The terrain they have is pretty nice too. I was impressed when I went a few years ago to check it out.
Speaking of paints, I have a few I’d like to gift you one of these days and you just reminded me about that. I’ll drop you a line about them one of these days. Probably when spring arrives and walking to the post office doesn’t sound unpleasant!
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The biggest I know of is a boardgame convention across the lake from Seattle (Dragonflight in Bellevue) but nothing that draws game manufacturers.
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That is a surprise. I really think there is a market there for a wargaming convention in Oregon or Washington. Last I heard Cincinnati was going to create one which is crazy because Cincinnati is smaller than Seattle by quite a bit I would imagine.
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The game store had done it before, first with Bolt Action and then with Star Wars Legion. With limited wall space they need to rotate products.
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That’s interesting but it makes sense. The store that was local to me had limited space too so I can understand keeping things fresh. It has to be hard to decide which games to pick because Bolt Action, Star Wars Legion and Kings of War all have pretty decent followings and none of them are going anywhere anytime soon. I guess its good that I don’t own a game/hobby store!
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Well really mate, if you’ve only seen the newer trilogy of films no wonder you’re not a Star Trek fan, that would put anybody off! Take some time to watch some decent Trek, you won’t regret it. 🙂
Sadly we don’t have conventions like this, certainly not on this scale. I know there are a few down in the south east of England but that’s a long way to go. Something I’d definitely like to do someday though, although I fear I wouldn’t be as restrained in my spending as you’ve been! Looking forward to seeing what you do with your loot, especially Anubis who I’m sure you’ll have looking spectacular!
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I’ve always thought Star Trek looked a bit boring and too serious growing up so I stuck to Star Wars 🙂 Having said that, I probably should give it a shot…
That is shocking to me because I think of England as being the hub for all things miniatures. I mean GW and Mantic are both based there, for example! GW had so much Necromunda at Adepticon, especially the FW stuff. I was really shocked. It was kind offensive compared to the Middle Earth selection, if I’m honest! If I wasn’t anxious to find out about GD, I might have gone through and purchased something. Although then again, I seem to be full of excuses as to why I haven’t painted anything Necromunda, come to think of it!
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I was of a similar mind about Trek when I was a teenager, it looked a bit dull compared to the very bright and flashy Star Wars. However I’m going to nail my colours to the mast as a bit of a Trekkie and say that of the two Trek is the better. In the case of Star Wars I very much enjoyed the original three films, I have very fond memories of watching those when I was a kid, and although they’re not above criticism they still hold up well today. In my mind though the other films were all kinds of rough; Episodes 1, 2 and 3 were some of the worst films I’ve ever seen and 7, 8 and 9, although they had their moments, missed the mark for me as well. I’ve not seen much of the expanded universe stuff, just the Mandolorian and Boba Fett, but I enjoyed both of those. Star Wars lends itself well to being very serious or very silly, and yet I find that outside of the original trilogy they often do one when they should do another, taking silly things seriously and making jokes out of what should be weighty moments. Trek strikes that balance pretty well for me (although again, I’ve not watched much of the newer stuff (I hear its mostly terrible) with the exception of Picard – which is good in parts, and Lower Decks – which is excellent, but you really need to be familiar with Trek to get it. The original series is good, although its been a very long time since I watched it and I suspect it all looks a bit ropey today. Next Generation, Deep Space Nine and Voyager are all brilliant, there’s a real depth and quality to the story-telling and characters (despite also being very, very silly at times).
As for England being the global hub of miniatures I think that both is and is not the case. It’s the home of GW, and they remain the undisputed big dog of the miniatures world, and yes there are lots of other companies about down there. However its also a fairly small country and the scene is dominated by GW. It’s like a whale in a bathtub, aye there might be other creatures in there but the whale is drawing all the attention.
Aye, it’s funny the way Middle Earth, despite being one of the “core games”, seems to be withering away in terms of popularity, it used to be absolutely massive. I meet far, far more people who say “Oh cool, miniatures, I was into the Lord of the Rings game when I was a teenager” than say that about 40k or Warhammer. Probably just a case of changing tastes, the dire state of the miniatures range (barring a few exceptions) and the decades that have passed since the films. It deserves a reboot from GW, but then again there are so many things they should be investing more time in and/or bringing back it’s hard to pick what should get their attention first (probably not more space marines, although I guarantee that’s what they’ll pick!).
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I was really glad to hear you thought the same on Star Trek until I realized you only felt that way until you were a teenager and then I didn’t feel so good haha! In all seriousness, I think you said all that really well and maybe one day I will give more of Star Trek a try. I’m much more open-minded to it, after the two J.J. Abrams movies. I have to admit that I am finding it harder and harder to keep up with movies and TV shows because there are so many these days. There are shows and movies I’d love to rewatch and I just can’t find the time. I’ve been doing a lousy job of even seeing stuff that’s come out the last year or two. Too much painting and not enough watching, I suppose!
Its good to get the perspective of someone else on your island, even if he’s Scottish 😉 There are no US mini manufacturers that can even come close to GW. When you add up GW, Warlord, Sarissa Precision, 4Ground (RIP), and TTCombat, that is way more than what the US has. So that is why I think we have to give the Brits some credit here!
It is sad that GW won’t give LOTR more support. I assume it is this way in the UK too but in the US, they have next to nothing stocked for the game in their own stores. It is almost all exclusively available online or even worse, directly from GW. Its no wonder that people don’t get into the game. With card games and wargames, if people get any whiff that a game is dying or not fully supported, they bail on it quickly and I think that is what has happened to LOTR, for the most part. That and GW doesn’t host any Middle Earth events in their stores. If they did that, I’m sure the game would have a resurgence at least to some degree. I could go on and on about it but its not like James Workshop visits this website so not much is likely to change I reckon and you’re right, we’ll just get more Space Marines! Especially with another edition of 40k on the way!
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Nice haul Jeff, and good you managed to get some models that you have wanted, the biggest UK show is Salute, but no where as big as the shows in the US, good that this part of your experience was enjoyable
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I would have thought that Salute is bigger from what I’ve see and read so this is surprising to learn. I would have thought with how many people live on your relatively small island and how GW is based there, you’d have the biggest convention(s) by far!
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Only Forgeworld goes to Salute, Gw’s presence is through other vendors, and GW only has it’s own presence at Games Day or what it’s called now. The large American shows are at bigger venues so are normally a lot larger, one day would like to go to one.
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Warhammer Fest, I think is what you’re talking about and that really is shocking. GW does some strange things at times. If you come to the States, I’d say Adepticon is the one to attend. Nova is really good too though if you want to stay near the DC area. Truthfully, the March weather here is often gray and cold so I’d imagine you’d feel quite at home in that regard!
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Glad you got some stuff you wanted! 🙂 That Anubis figure looks impressive. I’d have been tempted by the Crocodile Games minis I must admit – they look very nice!
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I’m glad you like Anubis too, John! 🙂 Crocodile Games minis look great and they’re really cheap too. I was surprised to see minis for $10 and $15. That is unheard of nowadays where a single mini tends to be $30-$50 from the big manufacturers. I reckon you’d do a great job painting them up if you decide to dip your toes into the Crocodile Games-infested waters! 😉
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Glad you had a good time and something of a shopping trip. Though I almost never even go into the vender hall and just focus on gaming. But I haven’t been to a large convention in years (because of children, and not wanting to pay for the 3 nights in a hotel). Most of the conventions I go to now are tiny local things with no venders to really speak of. 😀
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The vendor hall has all kinds of tempting things in it so you should really give it a visit! Conventions are not cheap to attend if it isn’t local and it surprises me how many people take a yearly trip with a flight and hotel for their hobby. I’ve never done that before myself but kudos to those who can and do!
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Great to hear your experiences and opinions of the convention. I enjoy both the shopping and inspirational opportunities of gaming conventions although I admittedly dislike crowds. Covid and Brexit have really done some damage to gaming conventions in Europe so it is impressive to see how big Adepticon looks.
It is also very interesting to meet some of the folks products. One of the reasons I am such a big fan of Core Space from Battle Systems is spending quite a bit of time talking to Battle Systems people and genuinely enjoying their company. Great guys with a passion for gaming. Their enthusiasm was quite infectious.
Star Trek, like Star Wars, can be hit and miss. It is a very large IP these days with a very broad universe consisting of vastly differing writers, stories and characters. While their origins may be quite different over the years they have increasingly blended, with for example JJAbrams Trek being more like original Star Wars than original Star Trek in my opinion. Of course Abrams himself said he was always more of a Star Wars fan than Star Trek fan, if I remember correctly.
That said, as we have so often discussed there just is not enough time for everything. Thanks for letting me visit Adepticon vicariously.
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While I can’t claim to have written this just for your reading pleasure, I thought you might find it more interesting than most other regular visitors, mate.
Covid has not done any damage to Adepticon that I can see. It seemed exactly the same as it was pre-pandemic, which was the last time I attended it. I guess that is a good sign for our hobby’s health.
I probably should talk to the people at the booths more. I tend to be more of the mindset of I know what I want so let me buy it and move on to the next thing. Maybe that is an introverted thing, I can’t really say. Either way, I think conversations like the one you described can be very motivating in our hobby.
I think J.J. Abrams took Star Trek and made it appealing to someone who grew up loving Star Wars. I was looking forward to more of those movies but Beyond was thoroughly average and now I don’t think another one will get made. We’re drowning in all this content but we can get a Star Trek movie with a very strong and talented cast that wants to be involved. Its crazy!
You’re welcome and thank you for reading and sharing your thoughts! 🙂
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My wife does get a bit tired of my extroverted behavior at conventions although I am not quite a complete exhibitionist. 😉
I keep hoping to see a Star Trek project that surprises me as much as Andor did as a Star Wars project.
It is a shame we do not live near each other, I would enjoy long winded discussions and fun filled gaming with tasty beverages.
Even Synths need tasty beverages.
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Haha, my Dad is introverted like me but when we would go on vacation or he was excited enough, he would throw that out the window and do exactly what your describing so I know your wife’s pain all too well! 😀
I agree that gaming and conversation sounds lovely. Playing Fallout solo is a lot of fun but I’m sure having someone else to join in would make it even better!
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Sounds like you had a great time, mate – you’ve got me all ‘juiced’ up for the UKGE now, roll on end of May!
Can’t wait to see what you do with Anubis, he looks great on the box
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I’m glad to hear it, mate! I’m excited to paint Anubis as well. I can only hope to match the great paint job on the box art.
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Match! Better, surely? 😉
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Haha, flattery will get you everywhere with me, mate! 😀
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Thanks for the walk through mate. It almost felt like I was there with you hehe. Sadly we don’t have anything like it here in Australia. I don’t think anyway.
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Now that would be a fun trip to Adepticon! 🙂 It is a shame you don’t have anything like it. Either Australian wargamers are a loud bunch and make it seem like its a popular hobby on your island (which is my impression) or game manufacturers are just missing out by not coming to you!
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I don’t think the culture is as big here, sadly.
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It’s a population and distance thing. We have 26.3m people total with the biggest population clusters in two main cities – Melbourne with 5.2m and Sydney with 5.1m located 540miles from each other. It can be worth flying a few individual actors or artists out for a Comic/Pop Culture convention, but not a cargo container full of stuff from Mantic or AK or whoever – all places that simply have local businesses doing local distribution.
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That makes sense, mate. I appreciate your explanation. If the margins aren’t there, then the big companies won’t show up. That is for sure.
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That was interesting to read, thanks for sharing. From my side, I think that one needs to have something more to do at conventions than just wander about the booths. Obviously in your case that was the painting competitions that you’d entered, and I’ve been to some gaming events at conventions that fulfilled the same purpose. I’m also impressed with your willpower at not coming home with a massive pile of boxes of minis that you don’t need!
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You’re welcome and thank you for reading it! Since you can get in to Adepticon just to shop for free, its worth making the trek just for that. It isn’t easy to keep your restraint though, I will admit. It costs $50 to enter in painting competitions and participate in the gaming events which I think is fairly priced, especially if you go for more than one day. They had plenty of MCP gaming opportunities so I reckon you’d enjoy visiting Adepticon though it is quite a journey from where you live, I will admit!
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Looks like a fun time. Gotta get to Adepticon one of these years. My wallet can easily take a beating at those type of conventions; glad you showed some sensible restraint!
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It is definitely worth the trip and a pretty easy flight from Philly if you’re so inclined. I’m lucky enough to have a good amount of self-discipline but even for me it wasn’t easy!
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Sounds like a fun time and radically different to the cons that we have out here, that are mostly focused on gaming tournaments while the vendors are primarily the regular retail stores that you can buy from online most of the year ’round anyway.
The exceptions are things like Supanova and PAX which are much larger pop culture cons that also have a hefty entry price but cater to a much wider demo.
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I haven’t had the pleasure of attending PAX before but it would be interesting to compare it to Adepticon. I would say that Adepticon is pretty chill overall and people who are attending are very polite to each other which makes it enjoyable to attend. I’ve heard Comic-Con in San Diego and E3 (when it was still a thing) were not quite as pleasant.
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Yes, conventions and comics festivals are all great. this is a wonderful post.
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Thank you for your kind words and for reading it, Henry!
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