Fallout – Follow the Signs

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  1. The signs should certainly add some height to your road sections Jeff, and are up to your usual very high standard, the addition of the rust on the models has added even more depth to already great painting.
    Thought about watching Sweet Tooth the series a few times, and may give it a try at some point, but thanks to the review will probably give the comic book a miss if I’m honest ! LOL

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    1. Thanks, Dave! I’m hoping the signs will add another sign of life and realism to my terrain layouts.

      I would definitely take a gamble on the show and not the comic in this case. The comics are not bad at all, they’re actually pretty decent but I don’t know if they will be everyone’s cup of tea. They weren’t quite mine unfortunately.

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  2. Love the signs, great idea to add some more to the scene setting. Old rusty signs are such a feature of post apocalyptic settings.

    I remember seeing the tv show for sweet tooth advertised at the time but had no idea what it was. If it’s in the style of walking dead I’m not sure I’ll watch it, there’s only so much “the real monsters are the humans” fiction I can watch.

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    1. Thanks, Nic! The little things like signs do make a difference or at least I think so anyway. Of course, having the time and creativity to make all this stuff is the real catch!

      I know exactly what you mean on “the real monsters are humans”. At the risk of spoiling the book, I think the main message is criticizing how humans have treated the Earth and in that sense, the villains only further prove that point. Having said that, while I think the moral is spot-on, it is kind of tired and has been done in many different ways already. I think that is probably the biggest reason why I can’t say Sweet Tooth is better than other stories in the genre or give the comic a stronger recommendation.

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  3. Both my wife and I enjoyed the show Sweet Tooth, the first season we felt was better than the second. It did fall into the rinse and repeat of villains though.

    I like the signs, just surprised that there aren’t any bullet holes in them. No drunken kids/rednecks in Fallout?

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    1. The show has a pretty positive reception and its good to hear that you and your wife liked it.

      I think maybe one of the signs I haven’t painted yet has a bullet hole in it but I’ll have to double-check. I don’t know what a laser pistol does to a sign to be fair! 🙂

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  4. Thanks for the kind words mate.

    The signs and bandits look ace. Good point about bullet holes by Bret.

    I am feeling particularly grumpy today but your post was a nice counterpoint to my bitter grumpiness.

    Speaking of counterpoints… what makes Sweet Tooth good in my opinion is largely the actors and the “cuteness” taking some of the sting out of the truly horrific aspects of the setting. Like Fallout, this counterpoint keeps it all from getting so unpalatable as to be unwatchable.

    The actors who plays both Gus and Jeppard are both very watchable in my opinion. There is more to Jeppard than what you might first think. It was interesting to see the plot point occasionally popping up of him having been famous before the plague. Sometimes helping him, sometimes not.

    The morality tale aspect of the show is a bit tired however. Yes, the humans are generally the real monsters. Plenty of characters to hate. Even one I hated but probably was not supposed to, the Doctor’s wife. Wow, I hated her. Even when I think I was supposed to empathize with her. Whereas the Doctor I both liked and disliked at times… which is a fun balancing act.

    Season 1 was better than season 2. And to be clear, I never read the comic so am unsure how it differs from the TV series.

    Thanks again mate. You always inspire me!

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    1. You’re welcome! It just kind of worked out that you got two mentions in one post. Also I hope that things get better for you soon as well.

      I think Sweet Tooth benefits from cuteness. The comics were lacking in charm that a different artist could have provided. Doctor Singh has a wife in the show!? He’s kind of a pathetic loser in the comic and single as far as I can remember. It sounds like the show goes in some different directions and might be more fleshed out than the comic which is a good thing in my book. The plot in the comic is fairly straightforward and could be a single season of a show pretty easily I would guess.

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  5. Never heard of the comic or the TV series, but would give the latter a go. Seems like my viewing time would never allow me to see all I’d like.

    Love the rusty signs. The little things on a tabletop to me are the most important. Nice stuff!

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    1. I can strongly relate to the lack of time. I would be tempted to say, “Well, maybe when I retire” but I don’t think the deluge of media is going to slow down between now and then for better and worse.

      Thanks for the kind words as well!

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  6. Another +1 for bullet holes, as that was the first thing I thought. Especially since I grew up in some rural areas, and it was probably less likely to run into a sign without them! They look great otherwise and look really good on those bases. The weathering on your models looks nice too.

    Speaking of weather, I’m still under it. But trying to do some couch blogging as I can.

    That bust you picked up looks amazing and really interested to see how it turns out! Plus your surprise mini at some point.

    Lemire/Sweet Tooth – I’ve read a bit of Black Hammer and liked it, but was worried the “reveal” would be less interesting than I thought. I do plan to return to it someday soon and have been collecting the softcover omnibus as they come out.

    Art is a big part of a comic for me. I can get behind a comic with good art and not a great story. But the other way around, not so much. Sweet Tooth’s art doesn’t do it for me at all.

    I don’t know if the show would be better, but I sometimes find I’m too invested in the comics to like the tv show/movie. Sometimes there’s some exceptions, especially when they add something new that just makes sense. But too often they change things just because or for the wrong reasons.

    Real life villains…that was the big hook for me with Walking Dead. That with a post apoc world, some bad apples would certainly show up. But more and more,
    I think (at least in America), there are likely way more bad apples than good ones! That lady who cut you off in the supermarket aisle so she can get in line first.
    The “loving” Husband who cheats on his taxes and/or his Wife. I can’t imagine those people would act any better in a post-apoc world!

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    1. Cheers, Brian! I double-checked and one of the other signs does have bullet holes in it so hopefully that makes some of you out there happy 🙂

      I’ve started on the surprise mini so you’ll see something about it soon, I reckon! I do look forward to tackling that bust too. I think I can do some damage with it!

      Black Hammer is on sale currently on Comixology and I want to check it out but the prices are kind of high and I just finished Sweet Tooth and feel like a change of pace is in order.

      I totally agree with you on the art side of things. A book’s gotta have at least decent art or it just isn’t worth reading! I also agree on being invested in one form of a story and not others. For example, I really enjoy the Last of Us I and II and then HBO released the show and everybody loves that, including a lot of non-video gamers. I should want to watch the show but I enjoy the games so much, I haven’t been able to find the motivation to watch it yet. In the case of Sweet Tooth, I would say the show is probably more worth trying if you’re checking it out for the first time. I think the comic doesn’t have enough things to make it special or unique to warrant starting with it.

      I know what you mean on real life villains! I’ve met my fair share and I’m sure you feel the same way 🙂 It isn’t so much that they aren’t realistic in Sweet Tooth, its more that they aren’t that compelling, creative, or unique unfortunately. I think TWD probably does that part better and characters like The Governor are among my least favorite parts of the series.

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      1. Yay, for the bullet holes! 😂
        I think you would find Black Hammer quite a bit different and it has a different artist. But where I left off, I can’t say it’s a must read yet. Have you tried Astro City by the way?

        I guess on art it’s very much a taste thing too. Dave Gibbons art is very static and dry throughout most of Watchmen, but I find it quite beautiful. I’m sure some would disagree. The art on Walking Dead wasn’t something that I would go buy original art pieces, but it served the story well.
        You didn’t like The Governor? I mean, I didn’t like him either, but I think he was a good villain for the series. The sad thing is that they seem to meet even worse people
        as they go. It’s a pretty dark story, but for whatever reason it mostly worked for me.

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      2. That makes sense. The fact that Jeff Lemire isn’t drawing it is a plus for me (not that I want to put him or his abilities down or anything). I’ve heard great things about Astro City but never actually read it. I haven’t seen it on sale on Comixology much either but I will try to remember to try it when it is on sale again.

        Have you looked at any of the color issues of Walking Dead? I saw that the issues are coming out currently but haven’t actually seen how good of a job they did. I think the series might benefit from a good colorist personally.

        The Governor is fine as a villain and served his purpose. I probably shouldn’t cite him as an example. I don’t know if it was Negan or before that but at some point in TWD, I got tired of all of the evil people they seemed to constantly run into. For me, the book was best early on when it focuses on survival. That is just more interesting to me. As the zombies become less of a threat and the story is more soap opera-y and focused on villains like Negan, I became less interested personally. Its totally a matter of taste thing but I think TWD moved away from what I enjoyed most about it. That is the main reason why I didn’t finish reading it. I think I have the digital trades up to where the Whisperers are introduced, if I remember right.

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      3. The artist on Black Hammer, Dean Ormston, suffered a stroke and had to relearn how to draw. I forget if he had to use his other hand instead, but pretty remarkable.
        Astro City has some great stories, turning a new spin on classic comics and characters. If you like character stories and superheroes, I think you’d like it.

        I don’t have enough investment in Walking Dead to go back to color versions. To me, the black and white made the most sense for the series, and color would just take away from that. There’s a whole design change when you switch the medium and also a big mood change. I will say, when TMNT went from black&white to color, I could still read it…but it became something a bit different.

        Ok, I understand what you’re saying on Walking Dead’s villains. I had long pauses while reading the series, so that probably didn’t impact me as much. I’m sure I left off with the town and it was 2-3 years before I jumped back in with the Whisperers/Negan stuff. I agree that the early survival parts were more interesting. The high point for me was when they found the prison. It reminded me of an rpg adventure module where the players find some abandoned facility, clear it out of monsters and turn it into a base! 😃

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      4. That is amazing on Dean Ormston. I salute him for doing that! I’ll add Astro City to my long list of books I’d like to read!

        I wouldn’t rebuy The Walking Dead physically for the color version either. I owned Scott Pilgrim physically in black and white and was so demoralized when they released a color version. It feels a little greedy by the publishers because they know people will rebuy it that way or at least I think so…

        The prison was a good part of the story and one of the last parts where survival mattered to Rick and Co. I’m no doomsday prepper but it is cool to read stories and see how people might survive in those terrible conditions. It would certainly make for a fun RPG or wargaming session!

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      5. Oh, you just reminded me that Usagi Yojimbo is (or has been) reprinted in color too. When I start that series, I think I will read the black and white copies I have first. The color ones do look good though, and knowing Stan Sakai, he put a lot of thought into the coloring.

        Just adding color to resell the book again sucks though. Professional comic artists make different choices if the series is going to be b&w versus color. Though in TMNT’s case, I would argue that they were not professionals yet and only printed b&w because it was cheaper. Still there are certain elements they used in b&w that worked better than it does in color. But I guess my point is that a lot of Indy comics coming out in later 80s/early 90s were not printing b&w as a stylistic choice but more a cost savings measure.

        Cerebus is another one that works really well in b&w, and I think it would be a disservice to reprint the whole series in color.

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      6. Usagi is a series I will try one of these days. I’ve read Samurai Manga that I really enjoy (Lone Wolf & Cub) and so I’d probably enjoy tales of the rabbit samurai.

        I don’t have a problem with black and white at all and I think it is a good cost savings measure for Indie comics, but it seems a little cynical when a series is released in that format to save money initially (or at least that is why I suspect they do it) and then it becomes a big hit like TWD or Scott Pilgrim and the publisher says to themselves, “what better way to squeeze more money out of this than to rerelease it in full-color?” Of course, many of us want to see that happen but it feels manipulative and like we’re being taken advantage of at the same time because we have to rebuy something we already own. Maybe I’m just taking it a bit too personally but I do know that I’d be pretty annoyed if I bought the physical copies and then had to upgrade to the color version and sell off the black and white versions. Fortunately, this doesn’t happen too often in modern comics!

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      7. I don’t think I would sell off the b&w version just because I got the color. I have the first Laird/Eastman TMMT in color but also a book with the original art in b&w (they actually used duo-shade). They are very different beasts to me, so I don’t mind owning them both.
        I kind of wonder if the Walking Dead was a stylistic choice or actually because of cost? I think it was likely cost. I don’t think anyone knew if a horror series would sell and Kirkman wasn’t a huge name at the time. With the moody tone of the book, I think b&w suited it better.

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      8. Maybe it is just me who would sell off the black and white then! I’m working under the assumption that color is the superior version too. Its always possible that black and white could be the better of the two!

        I would guess it was cost with Walking Dead too. I’m not sure what Image Comics was like when Walking Dead started because I was a casual comic book fan and didn’t read many of their books back then but I have to think that really changed what they could do business-wise and how much money they have. That franchise has made them boatloads of money, you would have to think and it probably has expanded their business opportunities as well.

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      9. Image has been doing pretty well for a long time. You have franchises like Spawn, Savage Dragon, etc. even before Walking Dead. They also had top creators like Jim Lee, etc. But around that time they seemed to be branching out to different genres, and taking some chances. I don’t recall if the comics market was in a decline at the time though.

        Yea, some people consider b&w to be inferior. Same with movies. But it depends on the artist’s intent and the mood they are trying to convey, I think. It also helps highlight the line work of a good illustrator , which can get lost in colors (especially with obnoxious computer coloring). I don’t know if you ever saw some of the series like Batman: Black & White, but they showed what a good artist can do in that medium. I think Marvel had a version too, Shadows & Light maybe?

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      10. I always forget about Spawn and Savage Dragon because I’ve never read them. Image had Rob Liefeld at his peak as well. I was not into comics at all during the period you mention so it is a total blindspot for me, truthfully.

        I do know what you mean. I saw that DC releases black and white versions of Batman for collectors. I don’t know how popular or valuable those issues are because it is a variant but it is a cool idea, particularly for something heavy with shadows like Batman.

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      11. I can’t say you missed too much with Image during that period. It was fun at the time, but not a lot of substance. Hence why people joked about them being “All Image”. Then again, DC and Marvel were flooding the market with poor comics at the same time.
        I did enjoy Savage Dragon. Larsen is a pretty good writer, and makes his characters interesting. But it is a superhero comic, so if you’re not too crazy about that, you might not like it much.
        Heh, if you really want to go down the rabbit hole…IDW has hardcover collections of original art. They photograph them and print them at original size. They’re not cheap, and you’d definitely have to be a fan of comic art to want to pick those up!

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      12. That makes sense on Image’s early days. I’ve heard good things about Savage Dragon. I know very little about it but I may look into it further. I didn’t realize IDW did that. I don’t have the space for that at all, sadly. I’d have to flip through a book or two like that and see how I feel. I tend to think I’d rather just have a really nice omnibus instead if I was going to have a physical version at all. With that said, I’m glad it exists for art fans out there!

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      13. Omnibus are okay, but they tend to be heavy beasts. I prefer something I can curl up with on the couch or a chair. So, most of my collection is trade paperbacks or slim hardcovers.

        The other downside to the Omnibus format (for me), is that they tend to be printed on glossy paper with bright colors. So they look very different than the pages of the older comics. I guess for someone who didn’t collect comics back when I did, they don’t know the difference anyways. Also, that style works fine for more modern comics, but I lean towards digital for more modern stuff anyways.

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      14. I hear you! I meant it in the context of would I rather have a hardcover of comic art or a hardcover of the actual comic. I’d choose the comic. I like too many series to own them all physically so I’m pro-digital too. I’m eagerly anticipating some Black Friday sales on Comixology any day now in fact…

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      15. There’s no big sales to speak of so far! Did you see that Comixology is now basically being completely gotten rid of and you’ll have to read stuff in the Kindle app instead? I might have the details slightly wrong since I only skimmed the email but I’m pretty sure that is the gist. I’m disappointed in Amazon for what they did to Comixology.

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      16. Crap, really? Wonder what that means for previous Comixology purchases? I wish they had gone the other way around.
        I did notice when I looked something up on Amazon that it only had a Kindle option, but I thought it might have been just for that book.
        No great sales is good news right now! 😂

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      17. I just reread the email and it sounds like everything from Comixology has been moved over to Kindle. You can read what you own in either place right now. Eventually, Comixology’s app will be gone. They basically slow played buying Comixology and absorbing it into their own ecosystem. Can you tell I work for a software company? 😉

        And don’t worry, I’ll let you know when the good sales start so you don’t miss out! 😉

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      18. Lol, please noooooo! I had a bunch of expenses earlier this month and thought I would be able to save some money this week. Then started getting inundated by Black Friday ads, so far I’ve been good…but I can feel myself weakening!

        Yea, sounds like typical the corporate assimilation. Too bad, as the comics readers are who suffer in the end. Did they make the Kindle app any better? I’m guessing “no”. I should check out the comics forum and see how many people are gnashing their teeth.

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      19. Well, the sales last night aren’t overly impressive so you’re off the hook for now. I’m guessing they’re waiting until actual Black Friday to put the best stuff up but we’ll see.

        I’d be curious to see what you find out. I downloaded the Kindle app last night and it seems to work okay. All my purchases are there which is good. I’d say it is awfully similar to Comixology was but I only tested it a bit so far.

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  7. Great job on the signs, but just to add to the chorus they need more bullet holes (sorry!) I’m in rural Vermont but still, I’d think road signs in a post-apoc world would have more bullet holes in them than the ones in modern-day VT LOL!

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    1. Thanks for chiming in 😛 In all seriousness, the feedback has been heard and I’ll see if people like the remaining two signs (which are more damaged) any better!

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  8. Nice, those signs will look good on your Fallout boards. Now you just need to find a local friend to play it with! I’m impressed with how different those raiders can look with a wee bit of rust added too. You’re clearly a perfectionist, tinkering with your minis right up to the end whereas I have to admit that I’m always ready to move onto the next project once I’ve mentally wrapped up the first.

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    1. I’m sure there are local people who play but I can’t be bothered to seek them out haha! It is less of a hassle to only bring the terrain from my closet to the table too 🙂 Thank you for the kind words as well, mate! I appreciate your support!

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      1. Each of us to their own, I guess. For me, the joy of playing is in the interactions with the other player; I have computer games for a solo experience. But I’m glad that you can play the way you like best unlike @ericritter65 who seeems to be lost in a wasteland of non-gamers!

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      2. Absolutely! Going to tournaments can be fun in its own way too but when you’re focused on the story (like I am), that makes it that much harder to find an opponent on the same wavelength as you.

        Its a whole other topic but I think people in the UK, who haven’t been the States much, might be surprised how the gaming scene looks here compared to across the pond. The easiest way to describe it is that the tournament scene is definitely king but the most popular games dominate that scene. So Magic: The Gathering and the Warhammers are easy to find opponents for. Other games are much more hit and miss. It can often be dependent on the local gaming stores whether you see tournaments for MCP or Star Wars Legion, for example.

        In other words, you’re lucky to have a strong scene near you!

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      3. I think that it’s quite cyclical in nature – one of the things that I enjoy about MCP is that there is a strong local scene so I do try to do my small part to keep it that way. If the scene dwindled I doubt that I’d be one of the last die-hards holding onto it.

        If I understand you correctly, the tournament scene is probably not so different as you imagine – Magic or Warhammer have events constantly and probably have a huge pool of players coming in and out of them whereas for the smaller games like MCP we have to constantly work to make sure that there is a scene to come to.

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      4. Once you get into a community and make some friends, it becomes enjoyable to go back and enter again and again just to see people you know. It was that way for me with Pokemon TCG when I played that many, many years ago. Yes, I was a couple years older than some of my opponents and yes, I still beat them senselessly but politely in the game 😀

        That’s interesting. Some games like MESBG have a much better scene in your neck of the woods than in the States. Here there are only bigger tournaments for MESBG at Adepticon and Nova (Chicago and DC) so major cities and major miniature conventions so I would have thought other mid-tier games like MCP (that’s my impression, I could be wrong on the popularity of MCP for sure) would have strong scenes all over the UK.

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